16 May 2026

49 minutes

Available for over a year

The former Communities Minister Miatta Fahnbulleh, who was the first Minister to resign from Keir Starmer's government after the elections, discusses reaching breaking point, who should lead Labour now, and why she's terrified of where politics is going.

She also talks about her experience as a civil servant working with Conservative Ministers, and why her children are her toughest critics.

Senior Producer: Hannah Wilkinson

Producer: Flora Murray

Sound: Jack Wilfan

Editor: Giles Edwards