Should Gatland stay or should he go?published at 17:31 GMT 23 November 2024
17:31 GMT 23 November 2024
Wales v South Africa (17:40 GMT)
The future of Warren Gatland has been debated in rugby clubs up and down the country and it's proving quite the divisive subject.
Here's what a couple of ex-British and Irish Lions think.
Team Stay
Former England prop Phil Vickery:
"He’s done incredibly well for Wales and if anybody can do it, that’s your man.
"It's results-driven and he's under the cosh, but if I was a young Welshman wanting to break out, Warren Gatland is your man to bring people in and make something happen.
"Wales don’t have the depth of squad, but he's been there before and done it."
Team Go
Former Wales centre Tom Shanklin:
"I feel sorry for him after all he did for Welsh rugby.
"Gatland offered a short-term fix when he returned, but now it's time for a new coach with a fresh voice bringing fresh ideas.
"We can't play physical rugby any more because we lack size or power, but we're not seeing a plan B and there hasn't been any progress."
They’re the best team in the world at the moment, particularly
with their strength in depth. No one expects anything from Wales today. So just show some character, dig into them and
see what happens.
James Hook Former Wales fly-half on BBC Radio Wales
This Springbok team make changes, they can make five or six changes and it doesn't upset the team in any way, shape or form. Sometimes it strengthens the team.
They've made a change at half-backs, the Hendrikse brothers are playing, so maybe an area for Wales to target.
Views from the campspublished at 17:28 GMT 23 November 2024
17:28 GMT 23 November 2024
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Wales head coach Warren Gatland: "Last week's result hurts, and we are just as disappointed by it as the fans.
"There were good elements that we can definitely build on going into Saturday, but we have to improve our accuracy.
"We know what a quality side South Africa are and the physicality they bring. This week we need to show real courage and front-up against the world champions."
South Africa head coach Rassie Erasmus: "This is our last match of the season, and we are determined to finish the year on a positive note.
"Wales are a proud nation with a world-renowned coach in Warren and they'll do everything to finish their campaign on a high note.
"We'd love to finish the tour unbeaten, but we are well aware of the fact that we've have a few close results against them over the years at the Principality Stadium."
Kolisi aims to finish 'special' year with winpublished at 17:27 GMT 23 November 2024
17:27 GMT 23 November 2024
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Springboks skipper Siya Kolisi wants to finish a "special year" with a complete performance against Wales.
South Africa followed up retaining the World Cup last year by winning the 2024 Rugby Championship.
They have won 14 of their last 16 Tests, with their only two defeats during that period both by a single point.
But Kolisi believes his side can improve.
"It's been a special year and hopefully we can make it even more special with this last game," he said.
"We want to make sure we get a better performance. In the last few games we've got the win but did not achieve what we wanted, which is a more complete performance.
"Winning is the most important thing but we are looking for that team performance to close off the year properly."
Gatland 'has fixed things before'published at 17:25 GMT 23 November 2024
17:25 GMT 23 November 2024
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One of Gatland's supporters is South Africa head coach Rassie Erasmus.
"Warren can't all of a sudden become a bad coach with his track record," said double World Cup winner Erasmus.
"The players that they have, if you look at them individually, there are some world-class players in there.
"I know the record of losing 11 on the trot is not great. I just know Warren is a great coach and I know they've got great players.
"It's not quite clicking, but he is a guy who has fixed things before."
Gatland and Erasmus have not only locked horns for Wales and South Africa, they were also opposing coaches when the Springboks defeated the British and Irish Lions in 2021.
"Coaching can become lonely, it's cut-throat. Whenever someone is under the pump, you don't wish anything bad on that person," added Erasmus.
"I wouldn't say I'd love him to beat us, but I'd love him to be successful. I've got a lot of respect for him and hope he gets the respect from everyone he deserves."
Gatland wants timepublished at 17:23 GMT 23 November 2024
17:23 GMT 23 November 2024
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While a lot has been said about Warren Gatland's future during this autumn series, he gained a lot of credit for the honest way he conducted his post-match interviews after the Australian defeat.
The 61-year-old New Zealander said then he would agree to "whatever the best decision is for Welsh rugby".
This week he said he has the desire to remain in post and asked "for a little bit of time" to turn his team's fortunes around as Wales aim to avoid a 12th straight loss.
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