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Joan O'Connor Joan O'Connor, Sydney Nova Scotia Canada
Orla Small and Simon O'Connor I hope you will contact
me at:
seashore2 at ns dot aliantzinc dot ca
Eric Aitken - Apr '07 I don't know if this link is still working,
but anyways to Maggie Sutton comments about the article-
I have been researching my wife's (Patricia Reid)family
tree. She has a great grandfather John Reid who was
born about 1812-14. We have little information and perhaps
we could correspond to check out details.
Simon O'Connor (Leeds England) - Feb
'07 This site is great; I believe from my Dad Kevin
O'Connor that I could be related to Orla Small and Joan
O'Connor.
Ard - Aug '06 My grandfather belonged to Ballynahinch my
great grandfather had a farm there called Maghradroll
Ive always wanted to go and see for myself where grandpa
came from and where my descendant belonged to. Thank
you for this site Ive learnt a lot about the town.
Maggie Sutton - May '06
About a year ago, my cousin was visiting other cousins
in New Hampshire and was surprised when one of them
brought down from the attic a box of papers with journals
by our great-grandfather, Robert Reid. On the bottom
of the page was just the word "Ballynahinch".
Our great-grandfather was Robert Reid, born 1814 and
we think that he was probably born in Ballynahinch.
His father was James Reid, born about 1791 who was perhaps
married in Downpatrick. We can find out nothing else
about our Reid ancestors who came to Canada about 1827
we think. Robert had a brother, John, born 1812, and
a brother William born 1820.
Howard, are you by any chance related to my Reid family??
Thank you,
Maggie Sutton
Anne Curran / McGrath - Mar '06. Very interesting article about the Battle of
Ballynahinch and the story of Betsy Gray.I went to Assumption
Convent in the 60s where my best subject was History.
I wrote an essay on the 1798 in County Down for the
County Down Feis using information culled from books
provided by the library there and I got first prize.
It is great to see the interest in local history being
highlighted .
Congratulations to the BBC for assisting in the promotion
of this. I shall be telling my riends at home and especially
abroad about this site.
Rex Morrow - March '06
I visited Montalto Estate in 1995 whilst researching
my family history. I was just at the gatehouse,and the
manager of the estate asked if he could help me. He
drove me around the estate. There is sealed roading
around the estate and this was done by the Americans
when they barracked there during WW2.
My great grandfather met his wife in Ballynahinch...
and my guess is that he probably did some of his courting
in the grounds of the estate. He later named his farm
in New Zealand... Montalto. His wife lived above the
newsagent/bookshop that is now Brennans. The shopfront
has been restored to the look of that of the 1830s.
Orla Small - Jan '06 Joan O'Connor - Cape Breton, Nova
Scotia. (see below ) My father is Colm O'Connor and
lives in Drumanaquoile still along with his brothers
Seamus, Daniel & Liam. It was really interesting
to hear about other O'Connors in a place so far away!
If you would like to contact us you can drop me an email.
Mr Graham It's a real disgrace that the area at the spa
wells is not restored to its oridinal beauty, surely
there is some form of funding availiable for areas like
this one or shall it end up looking like the maze?
Bill Gwynne I would like to ask Joanne Patterson if she
has ever heard of Sadie Pool, who had a pub opposite
the old town hall. I lived in Ballynahinch for three
years during the 1960's and had many a chat with Sadie,
she could tell a story or two. I'm sure she is long
dead now but a very interesting story could be written
about Sadie Pool.
Hilary Nickell - November '05 I am at an early stage of investigating my
family history and discovered that my Grandfather a
certain Mark Alexander Nickell was from Ballynahinch.
As a result also found this very helpful article about
the town.
Are there any further historical records as sadly,
we have little information on my Grandfathers ? We don't
even have his a date of birth, but believe he had a
brother Robert (Bob) who moved to Bootle and two sisters
Jane and Liza . I do know the family moved to Bloomfield,
Belfast probably around 1914 at a guess.
Samuel Bothwell Kernohan - October
'05 Indeed the Battle of Ballynahinch forms strong
links. I was born and brought up in Ballynahinch, where
I lived above and behind the hardware shop S.W. Kernohan
&Sons, in front of the square. I went to Croobe
Park primary school with Horace Reid, who, together
with another kid called Coulter, according to Jim Paisley,
the headmaster, were the bane of his life. Sometime
around 1956, I think, we went to live in the country
between Ballynahinch and Dromara. Unbelievably I finally
graduated with B.A. from Queen's.
For the last 34 years I have been living, working and
procreating in Argentina, mostly as a cattle manager,
then as an English teacher, an agricultural consultant,
a market gardener, and finally as a translator, and
an aspiring writer, of some of my extraordinary experiences
in this amazing country.
I can clearly remember the town, especially the Thursday
fairs, when we were happily invaded by the most outrageous
characters who set up stalls in the square, selling
everything you could name, and some stuff you couldn't.
It is a memory I cherish the more the older I get. Mrs
Poole's ice cream with a Cadbury's chocolate flake stuck
in it, for some bizarre reason called a "99".
As a Boy Scout, having the free run of the Clanwilliam
Estate. The Bauran drums making a hell of a racket,
the parades on the 12th. I have often been tempted to
tell the English, "If it wasn't for us you'd be
still groaning under the Stuart yoke." Please make
contact, especially Horace.
Cheers, and keep up the good work.
E. Heath - July '05 Please do you know any of the history of the
old houses called Mountcaper which sit back from the
main Grove Road, Spa and are said to date back to 1790
?
Ros Peters (nee Creeney) - June 05 I stumbled across your website when searching
for Church Street, Ballynahinch. Imagine my surprise
when I also came across a photo of said street. It is
mentioned in Griffith's Valuation as the address of
one of my ancestors, Catherine Creeney. Finding out
more than just a name is always a bonus, so thanks a
bunch for your welcome information.
Rachel Crawford-Tanham - June '05 Great article thank you. My Great Grandfather
is from there and my father, John Crawford, has been
researching the history of the Crawford Family. We traveled
there in 2002 and visited the town and the grave yards
in the area and found Thomas Crawford's grave. This
was very emotional for my Father to be able to trace
his family roots. Would love to find a book on the town
but so far no luck...any suggestions?
Irene - April 05
great reading, thankyou for putting this on the web,
I am curious why the name "Rawdon" has not
been used as a Street name or place name in the town
of Ballynahinch, e.g. Rawdon Trail, Rawdon Crescent,
Rawdon Mews, Rawdon Square, or Rawdon Circle, etc. Local
history is fascinating and captivating, after hearing
or reading a little one wishes to know a lot, these
old names should never die. Thanks once again, I'll
return to your site.
Glenna Morrison - Mar
05
Beautifully done and a fascinating piece of history.
One of my ancestors is Valentine Swail of Loughkeelan,
Ballyculter. I have read about a Dr. Valentine Swail
who was involved in the Battle and have to believe
he is connected to my family, but I haven't been able
to prove it ... yet. The article stated "Munro’s
second adjutant, Dr. Valentine Swail, was from Ballynahinch.
It was he who advised Munro to attack the army during
the night, while the Monaghans were busy drinking and
plundering the town. Following the battle, Swail hid
successfully on the Montalto demesne for several weeks.
His family knew where he was concealed, but dared not
go near his hiding place, though a faithful old servant,
Shulah Durnin, managed to supply him with food and
necessities. Eventually Swail obtained the government’s
permission to remove himself and his family to America,
and local people did not forget Shulah Durnin’s
heroic constancy."
Ros Davies - Mar 05
I am very impressed by the information contained in
this article and especially liked the audio/visual
story of Betsy Gray. Isn't technology wonderful!
Joan O'Connor - Mar 05 Rory, if you see them, please tell them I'd like to
make contact with them. My father and brother were
in Ireland in 1996, but at that time, we thought we
came from an area farther south, so they were searching
in the wrong parish ( which had its records destroyed
by fire, anyway)
Joan O'Connor - Mar 05
Thanks so much Rory. That will give me a place to
beging the Ireland search, so kind of you to post this.
Rory O'Neill - Mar 05
There are still O'Connor's living in Drumnaquoile
Close to Castlewellan, Co.Down. Danial, Seamus, Colm,
and Liam I know them all quite well so maybe that would
help you
David Ker - Jan 05
Tony Ker is directly descended from David Ker who
purchased Montalto from Lord Moira about 1800. Unfortunately
this interesting website contains a number of innacuracies
! Madelena Guardi never visited Montalto when it was
owned by her son,she died in july 1785. For a good
account of the story see Peter Carr's book PORTAVO,an
Irish townland and it's people.For his own ancestry
see Burkes Irish Landed gentry 1958 or Burkes Irish
family records 1976.
Anthony David Ker - Jan 05
This is a very interesting article. It prompted me
to look at a family tree record that my great grandfather
pasted on to me and I wonder if it might not be the
same David and Madelina Ker. This is an extract:
- David
Ker Merchant of London Died 1770 age 60
- Married Martha McPheadrie Born 1719 died 1767
- Begat David Ker of Portavo & Montalto Co Down
married Madelina Guardi daughter of Francesco Guardi
- Painter
- Begat David Ker of Portavo & Montalto Co Down
b 1814 d 30/12/1844
- Married Selina Stewart b 1786 d 1871
- Son David Stewart Ker of Portavo & Montalto
Co Down
- Married - no record
- Begat Rev. Hamilton Chichester Ker B 1861 D 1944
- Married Emily Maud Bateman
- Begat Edward Hamilton Ker b 1900 d 1984
- Married Dorothy Lillian Huges
- Begat David Edward Ker b 1929
- married Sheila Snape B 1929
- Begat Anthony David John Ker B 1956 - This is
me.
- Married Yasmin Bhatia
- Begat Bianca Ker
This is some of the data I have. Do you have any
information to indicate if there
is a connection to the David Ker
in the above web site article?
Regards Anthony (Tony) Ker
Joan O'ConnorCape Breton, Nova Scotia -
Dec 04
Great story! I think my forefathers might have
come from that town. My great great gandfather came from
ireland, but there is little history of him....of his
brother daniel O'Connor, there is more. In 1811 Daniel
was shipwrecked off Cape Breton Island , Nova Scotia,
Canada. he stayed and eventually was granted land and
two of his brotehrs came to join him. We think they
came from Ballynahinch because he named his land, ""Drumna
Quoile". .....and we know he came from County
Down. can you tell us if there are other O'Connors
in the area?
SADIE HANNA (
NEE CARLISLE) - Nov 04
SAW THE ARTICLE ABOUT BALLYNAHINCH IN MOURNE OBSERVER
AND AS THERE WAS NO WEB ADDRESS GIVEN I STILL MANAGED
TO FIND IT VIA THE BBC. ENJOYED READING ALL ABOUT THE
TOWN OF BALLYNAHINCH AND ALSO SPA WELLS. i LIVED AT
THE SPA MANY YEARS AGO AND MOVED ABOUT 4 MILES AWAY
TO DROMARA AFTER AFTER I GOT MARRIED. VERY INTERESTED
TO LEARN MANY THINGS THAT I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT
John Smyth, Vancouver - Nov 04
A beautifully told story that brought back childhood
memories. When I was a small boy my father, who had
an interest in local history, wrote an article for
the Down Recorder with an accompanying photo of my
sister and I at the ruined memorial. My next visit
home will have to include a return visit to the site.
David Carlisle - Nov 04
Read the article with great interest, well done. I
spent many a visit to the site as my family come from
Ballycreen. I intend to take my children there on our
next visit home, therefore i must remember to pack
the boots as
the place is always wet! I still believe however that
she still lies there, just a feeling you get when
attending the grave.
James Anderson - Nov 04
An easy to read piece of work well informed & of
immence interest to anyone from Ballynahinch. It has
answered questions that I have often wondered about
such as , why was a maze built at the spa & why
erect a monument to Betsy Gray in the back of beyond
to mention but a few. Best wishes to Joanne & Horace
and well done.
Gerard Sloan - Nov 04
A most interesting article.Perhaps you might like
to add this snippet of information to it?(Check with
Horace Reid first) The annual St. Patrick's Day parade
in New York City was started in 1776 by the Officers
of British regiments stationed in the city. These Officers
were from the 16th Regiment of Foot and the Volunteers
of Ireland,most of them Irish Protestants! They thought
that a parade through the city would be a good way
to win recruits to the British cause from the emigrant
Irish. Lord Francis Rawdon,leader of the Volunteers,became
Grand Marshal,leading the parade through New York.
A contempory account says the sight of marching soldiers
, all 'natives of Ireland' had 'a striking effect'
on the population and 'many of their countrymen joined
them'. Lord Rawdon then presided over a banquet for
his new charges 'consisting of 500 covers'.( Leonard
Doyle)
Donald Gray Jamieson - Oct 04
It was good to hear that Horace Reid has made the
internet, telling of the history of Ballynahinch. Since
my Jamison ancestors came from just north of Ballynahinch,
the article was most interesting. Horace has told me
many of these things when in the area during the past
six years. The last time was last August, 2004 His
slide presentation on Betsy Gray which I saw a couple
years ago at The Temple gold course is very graphic
and moist interesting. Horace has been most helpful
to me in a variety of ways, and his gracious, quiet
and humble spirit is appreciated. It is through Horace
that I have come to know about 14 Jami[e]son cousins
who still live in County Down. My interests have been
in family history and presbyterian history. Horace
has helped immeasureably in both area of concern. He
has given his time without mention of any fees and
driven his car five or six times taking me, family
and friends as far as the North Antrim Coast A year
and
a half ago he gave a !
one hour lectureat the Ballynahinch Market House on presbyterians in Co. Down
to a group of six American.
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