5. What's going on?

Available for over a year

Comedian Phill Jupitus searches for the answers to questions posed by songs. A 1971 hit for Marvin Gaye provokes a discussion with historian and author Rutger Bregman about what's happening at the moment in our lives and in our world. Producer: Rosie Boulton A Must Try Softer production for BBC Radio 4, first broadcast in December 2020.