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Zandra Ellis - June '08
Tom Smyth,
As you were born in Larne in 1938, do you remember my
grandfather Thomas Graham and his son Tom Graham and
their butcher shop at #10 Main Street?
Zandra Ellis
Sahron - Feb '08
I really enjoyed reading the memories from yester year!!
You cant really imagine Larne like that now, but it
seemed so lovely when you read Mr Reynolds' story.
Tom Smyth - Jan '08
I enjoyed this article. I was born in Larne in 1938,
remember Tom Finlay delivering milk with a horse and
cart. The women would fight over the horse droppings
for their window boxes. My Granny, Martha Steele had
a shop on Mill Street just up from the Mill and Mossy
Close's pub. I remember an air raid shelter built just
outside the shop while I had the chicken pox and kept
running out to see the work and getting chased in by
the workmen. Frank Collins would heave a brick through
George Whitesides window every November to spend the
winter in jail. One year George told him to bust somebody
elses window. Scotch Jock was another Mill Street character.
I remember Dan McKenna, Garveys, Longmores, Shannons.
Sam Gillespie was another old timer. I remember the
Yanks and the Belgians with their funny money with
holes in it, rows of armoured cars coming from Kliwaughter
to the Harbour. Revulsion for Hitler and Tojo. I have
been in New Orleans since 1968. Love Apsleys mega fry.
Big Tom
Anne McManus -
May '06
I enjoyed reading the stories on this site and noticed
someone mentioned that "they got their horses shoed
by the Mc Manus'". I'm researching my husband's
family tree, his ancestor's came from that area of
Ireland and I was wondering if anyone knew more about
those Mc Manus'? We are visiting Ireland in 07 and
would love to know more before we arrive.
Glen Brown - Dec '05
During my last visit to Larne earlier this month, on
asking several relatives and friends if they remember
Tom Graham's butcher shop? I personally could not, however
quite a few do recall Tom Graham's and his butchers
shop. A friend when a child further recalled accompaning
his mother into the shop on their regular weekly shopping
trips. He and I are now searching for photos of the
shop and Larne of that period to send to Zandra. Can
any other reader help?
Glen Brown
laharna60s@yahoo.com
Glen Brown - Dec '05
I can't picture the Gas Works though I recall it's location
on Main Street. Several Larne friends and relatives
when in conversation l often still remark "near
where the Gas Works used to be".
I do recall in the 50s seeing two Gas fitters with their
Gas Works handcart. I believe one of the Gas workmen/fitter
was called Raymond Smith and that he lived in Upper
Waterloo Road.
I also recall that one could get cash refunds on empty
beer bottles at a rag and bone place up where Riverdale
is now. Often the man there would try and save cash
by offering balloons instead. There were often exaggerated
tales of some young child on hearing the rag and bone
man touting around the streets. Including, a child had
given his fathers best shirt in exchange for a coloured
balloon only to receive what was then termed a 'hammering'
when the trading was discovered.
Cantrell and Cochrane lemonades were often subject of
tourists remarks, especially when they asked for lemonade
and were asked "Brown or White"?
Refunds on glass Lemonade bottles with screw tops were
given at most grocery shops or from Lemonade vans including
Larne Mineral Water Company The latter also used to
bottle Guinness with the legend 'Bottled in Larne' there
on the label. An old friend once told me that the best
halfpint bottle of the dark stuff was that bottled in
Larne while the best one pint bottle of the dark stuff
was that bottled in Newcastle, County Down. I preferred
a " Wee Willie" a McEwans ale, sadly no longer
available and now enjoy a pint of the dark stuff.
Many of our (NI) National food stuffs have gone including
'White Chief' loaf. I have yet to find a palatable alternative.
To think that ' sliced bread' was only invented in the
50s.
Martha Falvey (Finnegan) - Oct 05
I have enjoyed all the information on this site memories
of Larne, How it brings back lots of fond memories of
my childhood days growing up in Larne. Does anyone remember
a large tent being erected in the Larne football grounds
to stage a singing competition? It was called (Bambuzilam)
spelling possibly not correct. I have been told that
when this came to Larne the banks were on strike and
the owner of Bambuzilam lent the factory owners the
money to pay the wages. My brother, Owen Finnegan won
the singing competition. Larne was a friendly place
to live and people were always ready to help each other.
Keep adding to this site keep the memories of the good
old days going. Martha
Lewis Hart - October '05
Fascinating to read the different stories about larne,
the most interesting one about newton rangers in my
youth they were known as newington rangers as my grandfather
thomas mc neill known locally as stout mc neill played
on the right wing at the same time as fred. roberts
who moved on to play for glentoran and n. ireland. in
the 1920/30, i can remember a photograph in my grans
house at recreation road showing the team that won the
"clements lyttle trophy. as an ex larne man who
lived in waterloo road until 1957 and now residing in
gloucestershire it brings back great memories, thanks
a lot, lewis hart.
Zandra Ellis - August '05
I was born Zandra Ellis in 1945 in Larne to Mona Ellis
nee Graham and Alex Ellis. My memories of Larne are
mostly about my granda Thomas Graham and walking the
surrounding courntryside eating scones in country kitchens
and traveling the banks of rivers in Antrim.
Granda and his son Tom Graham owned the butcher shop
on Main Street Larne and kept cattle, pigs, and chickens
in the long back yard behind the shop. Granda was a
very well known individual in the town and I adored
him.
In the summertime when the light stays til close to
midnight I remember playing in the town and running
down and up the town hall steps which seemed enormous
in those days and alas seemed so small when visiting
in 2003 as an adult .
My uncle Gawn Graham lived in Doagh in an estate called
Invermuir on a farm and we visited there often in the
summers.
One of the things I missed so much when we emigrated
to America in 1953 was dulce. The salty wonderful flavor
of the seaweed is something I love to this day and really
enjoyed seeing and smelling it in a grocer shop on Main
Street when we last visited.
I loved roaming the surrounding countryside up the
Brae Road where Granda lived before he and my Granny
moved to Thorndale Avenue and when we visited in winter
my mother, father and I slid down the hill on the icy
spots on our suitcases and then walked home to our house
on Curran Road. I liked the idea that we walked everywhere
as cars were scarce then and I love walking to this
day.
I loved the shop I think that was on Pound Street with
the young woman who had the exquisite handwriting and
getting samples from the big block of cheese in the
shop.
I miss everything about Larne, my wonderful family,
the freedom of roaming the town and the sea, the beautiful
rain that kept things green and coming home from school
to my Granny Graham reading Shakespeare by firelight
and eating fresh bread with butter and honey. In other
stories I read of those days I hear the same yearning
that I feel about a time that has passed and the many
people who are now only a memory.
Do you remember my grandfather Thomas Graham who owned
a butcher shop on Main Street? When I was a child in
Larne, Granda Graham and my Granny Annie Graham lived
up the Brae Road. My Mother was Mona Graham.
And do you remember a young woman who worked at Whitesides?
She had the most beautiful handwriting. I remember the
big blocks of cheese that she would give me slices of
when I went in with my Mother.
Leaving home was the saddest day of my life and I grieved
for my Granda and all that Ireland had been to me and
I still do 50 years later.
Audrey Thompson - March 05
A way back in 1975 when i had just left school, and
began working in larne, there were some characters on
our streets, one was a tramp that used to live in the
old toilet block opposite the tower pool, he was known
as black moon, he would walk around larne during the
day and the nuns at the convent would feed him, he was
quite friendly always would have waved in the window
at the health centre where i worked, although anyone
who would approach him usely got a mouthful of abuse.
Another was a three legged dog, called patch who resided
at the Larne Times office, he had his own chair with
a cushion, and was free to wander around Larne. A number
of us teenagers followed Patch one day, to see what
he would do when hen came to a lamp post, As he had
no rear leg. Patch was no doser, he leaned agaisnt it!
Patch lived for years there, but unfortunately he died.
He had his own obbiturary in the Larne Times. I remember
a story my Father told me about Dan McKenna, he had
called at a house, to get his rent, before hecould open
his mouth the resident asked him did he know who had
won the 2.30, Dan was quite curt, saying how would I
know, to which his tennant replied, You should know,
your rent depends on it. Dan McKennas wife was a doctor,
one day she left him a new box of tea bags (Tea bags
had only just been invented) She returned to find Dan
very irrate, He had spent all day trying to get the
tea out of the bags.
Michael Curran - March 05
Dear Ignatius Reynolds,
Have you any past news or information Ref the "Lyceum Cafe" situated
on the Main Street behind Agnew Street where you lived. I seem to recall the
name Miss Clifford as manageress. This site was to house a Cinema called LYCEUM,
but during the War was used as HOME STORES run by Mr Gray, father of well known
Gordon. The 8 little kitchen houses on the Back Road were to seal the site.
this whole site belonged to Michael Curran "The Boss" Have you
any news about this,the year was probably 1935. Regards Michael Curran
John McCarlie - Newcastle, New South Wales - February '05
I can add some additional information on electrical
power generation in Larne. The first power station was
at the end of Pound Street and was later incorporated
in the premises of Kane's Larne Foundry where I started
my engineering training in 1947. This would have been
where the original steam engines were installed and
later, the gas engines, taking their fuel supply from
the Larne Gas Works in Main Street not far away.
The second station was in Coastguard Road, in a building
which later became an egg packing factory. The ex-German
submarine diesel generators were installed there, with
a large fuel tank in a open grass field facing the sea
front. This tank was later used to store diesel oil
by the Lobitos facility at the Harbour. A pipeline ran
underground to a discharging point for coastal tankers
at the "South End" berth, this berth has long
since disappeared under harbour extensions. Power supply
to the distribution system was by overhead cables and
the massive insulators and connections were visible
on the wall of the building until it was demolished.
The site was adjacent to "Curran Lodge" where
the manager, Mr Sanders lived, and was probably part
of the original grounds of the Lodge.
THe next station was on Curran Point, on the site of
the former Olderfleet Shipbuilding and Engineering Co
which was formed at the end of World war I and closed
down in the early 1920'2 after building only one ship,
a small dredger. This was a steam turbine station with
coal fired water tube boilers, the coal being shipped
in by small colliers owned by Howden Brothers and John
Kelly. The wharf was formed from the shipyard facilities
and the ships could only berth at high tide. The depth
is even less now as I noted during my last visit to
Larne. The site has been completely cleared and it is
surprising that a power station was on such a small
area; power output must have been very minor. I visited
the station once in the 1940's when operating and noticed
that one of the old submarine diesels was installed
as an emergency set.
During World War II, it was intended to extend Belfast
Harbour Power Station but due to the risk of bombing,
a new Station was build at Ballylumford on Islandmagee
and the new plant installed there. This was also a coal
fired steam station, with coal being shipped in by Kelly
colliers. On my last visit, I noted that it had also
been demolished.
I would be interested to learn of further technical
details of the various station, their construction,
operation and eventual demolition. A particular feature
would be the transport of the heavy components to the
various sites in the days of less sophisticated transport
facilities and mobile cranes. The road past the Boat
Club is still, I believe, unsurfaced and is extremely
narrow.
Zandra Ellis
My name is Zandra Ellis. I was born in Larne in 1945.
I am the granddaughter of Thomas Graham who with his
son Tom Graham owned a butcher shop on Main Street.
I lived with my mother (Mona Ellis, nee Graham) and
father Alexander Ellis on Curran Avenue and my grandparents
lived on Thorndale Avenue. My mother grew up in a house
on the shore called Alameida. I spent alot of time at
the buther's shop as a child until we emigrated to America
in 1953. I recently returned to Larne in May, 2003 and
walked the memories of my childhood. As a child I remember
people walking everywhere as there were few cars. It
was a wonderful childhood and I always longed for home
after we left. Hilda Holden of Dunluce Street was my
friend and David Garmond my neighbour, next to Granny
and Granda's on Thorndale Avenue. Does anyone remember
my grandparents Thomas and Annie Graham?
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