Sam Taylor-Wood
(Edited highlights of the panel's review)
MARK LAWSON:
Germaine Greer, she was quite a
big name before she had an
exhibition here. What will this
retrospective do to her reputation?
GERMAINE GREER:
She has already been short listed
for the Turner Prize, so the
reputation is pretty well made. It's
clear from the way she works that
there's a lot of investment in what
she does. In this, she is supported
by Becks beer, for one, and she is
at that interesting interface
between art and marketing, which
always fascinates me, because I
think marketing is the art form of
the 21st century. She is also
extremely eclectic, makes all kinds
of references to the graphic
tradition before her. It's very
sophisticated, serious work. It's
important to recognise that she
doesn't do the technical part of it
herself. She is not the actual print
maker. She is, as it were, the
director of this audio visual
experience, which is somewhere
between video and film, and still
photography, all of which she uses.
One of the problems with the
exhibition is you need a lot of
time, and it's very difficult to
separate what you are listening to
and what you are seeing from all
the other things that you can
glimpse and hear. It's difficult to
see them all together in a gallery,
but ultimately I have to say that I
think she is a good artist, and an
important artist. I think the real
message is that style is the new
content. That's perfectly logical it
should be about style. It's just
I find at a certain point I am not
interested. It's almost got no political
dimension. In fact I found myself
becoming completely fascinated by
the interiors.
TOM PAULIN:
It's the absence of politics.
This is the end of history.
It's narcissistic, weightless,
fantasy, decadent art that's
somehow survived into the next
century, but still saying there is
nothing here and there is soon
going to be even worse than
nothing. There is one good
moment, the terrific actor Ray
Winstone, with this enormously
long cigarette ash. I watched and
watched, and thought, "Is it going
to fall on his trousers, or is he
going to put it in an invisible ash
tray?" It's like a point in Satyajit
Ray's Pather Panchali where a
raindrop falls on a leaf, and
you watch it form and then
it drops, and wait to see what
happens, and then it stopped and
the loop started again. So I don't
know what happened to it.
LAWSON:
There is a still life which looks like
a painting of a bowl of fruit, and
then you look at it and it's actually
moving its film. She is competing
with two major entertainment
mediums, film and TV. How well
does it compete?
CRAIG BROWN:
What Tom was saying about
the cigarette, I am sure that
wasn't part of her purpose.
Tom has seen her poetry
and it didn't exist within it. The
trouble with film, like the bit
which you showed of the naked
woman walking along the street, I
then found myself, you are just
distracted by that kind of film. I
thought, "What are the lorry
drivers thinking? Is that King's
Cross, Hanover Square?" These
might be my own deficiencies. The
first one you go into is the party
with Marianne Faithfull and there
are seven screens showing
different people, moving from one
to the other. Germaine said that's
very technically adept and
sophisticated. Then I thought I
could have been at that party and
seen it live. There seemed to be no
art in it.
PAULIN:
A party is a mobile creature
it keeps changing its spots and
it was static.
GREER:
There was the drama of the
conversation between the man and
the woman, where the woman is
responding all the time and trying
to draw him on, and he is quite
knowingly manipulating her
reactions. One of the things that
Sam Taylor-Wood wants you to do
is like what Warhol wants you to
do. He wants you to stop
interpreting, stop contextalising
it and just look.
LAWSON:
She has been making silent movies.
BROWN:
But the exhibition comes with long
explanations before each room of
such amazing astute qualities. It
says, "The nude woman walking
down the street...."
LAWSON:
Fade out there.
BROWN:
It is a load of rubbish, what is
written.
LAWSON:
The exhibition continues
at the Hayward Gallery in London.